Yeah, that's the gist of it, I think. Conservatives say we shouldn't get our hopes up about progress. That defeatist attitude sustained patriarchies, slavery, and monarchies for thousands of years. We should always remember that that's what conservatives are effectively trying to conserve or to bring back. Peterson's confused about that since he identifies conservatives with classical liberals. We should keep the bigger picture in mind to prevent libertarian demagogues like him from pullng the wool over our eyes.